tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1227923538311048670.post2519848957424481401..comments2024-01-10T00:22:30.681+00:00Comments on PLATTITUDE: Haltemprice and Howden: a failure for the Greens?Steve Platthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04258173355418446390noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1227923538311048670.post-68642289722165291712008-07-13T16:39:00.000+01:002008-07-13T16:39:00.000+01:00It's a lot more than any so-called left group (inc...It's a lot more than any so-called left group (including the Labour Party) could have managed. Yes we owuld have liked to be up there with "several thousand votes" but it's not bad starting from nothing. Let's have less arguing about the decision to stand and more work in the ocnstituences where we do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1227923538311048670.post-86379683410121964742008-07-12T22:36:00.000+01:002008-07-12T22:36:00.000+01:0044 votes away from a disaster. Not a failure, but ...44 votes away from a disaster. Not a failure, but a narrow escape methinks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1227923538311048670.post-69929402083381668902008-07-12T11:40:00.000+01:002008-07-12T11:40:00.000+01:00I don't think Shan Pakes intended to win - what di...I don't think Shan Pakes intended to win - what did it do then?<BR/><BR/>- Pointed out David Davis' failings from a left/liberal point of view<BR/><BR/>- Won som national media coverage for an otherwise unkown candidate<BR/><BR/>- Built support for Shan for the Euro elections in 2009 <BR/><BR/>- Maybe some lefties who backed Shan in this election will campaign for the Greens in 2009? If5 people decide because of this 'I'm campaigning for the Greens next time' its a successAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1227923538311048670.post-58160151587912009592008-07-11T20:50:00.000+01:002008-07-11T20:50:00.000+01:00I'm with those who say the Greens did not fail her...I'm with those who say the Greens did not fail here. What they did do is put themselves in danger of failing by potentially coming third or lower - and through hard work that pitfall was avoided.<BR/><BR/>I think the same goes for Henley, for a minor party to do well enough to beat both BNP and Labour in very difficult terrain for us is not to be sniffed at. It also needs to be kept in proportion.<BR/><BR/>There were a number of people outside of the Greens who thought this by election should have been contested, particularly in the lib dems and the Greens have gained some kudos with this sort for attempting to make sure there were some options on the table.<BR/><BR/>Labour certainly failed as their proxy candidate did very poorly but the Greens might have been foolish to stand somewhere that was always difficult to do well in but they certainly made a good fist of it once the decision had been taken.Jim Jeppshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17410387006098326671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1227923538311048670.post-88183195905448023672008-07-11T18:47:00.000+01:002008-07-11T18:47:00.000+01:00I disagree. Henley wasn't a great result, 1300 vot...I disagree. Henley wasn't a great result, 1300 votes 3.8% with Labour in meltdown, but at least the Greens faced the Liberal Democrats, the BNP and UKIP in that one. <BR/>Who did they beat to come second in HandH? Oh yeah, Miss Great Britain and the Church of the Militant Elvis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1227923538311048670.post-67906593532655369612008-07-11T17:52:00.000+01:002008-07-11T17:52:00.000+01:00Sorry Steve, but coming second in a parliamentary ...Sorry Steve, but coming second in a parliamentary by-election fought in virgin territory, with a virtual media blackout on serious reporting, is not a failure. Third in Henley... Second in Haltemprice and Howden... First in Brighton Pavilion and Norwich South...?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1227923538311048670.post-4774731171912811382008-07-11T11:19:00.000+01:002008-07-11T11:19:00.000+01:00I don't see 1,700 votes as a failure. Not a breakt...I don't see 1,700 votes as a failure. Not a breakthrough admittedly but that was never going to happen in a three week campaign when all eyes were on David Davis. The Green Party can't call on large numbers of canvassers and volunteers like the big three but they have shown again that they are the only party on the Left that can get decent results consistently across the whole of the UK.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com